When the Giants Come to Town, It's Bye-Bye Baby

08.10.2007
Jeepers Keepers

After a season like this one, the intemperate fan is quick to shout, “Flush ‘em all and start over!”

In the interview I linked to yesterday, Brian Sabean didn’t bother to defend the house of straw he’s built the past three years, which only adds to the temptation to approach with a lit match. Matt Morris, now Mark Sweeney: Who’s next? is the evident question.

But I’ll take a contrarian point of view: a few veterans should stay next year. Behold:

* Bengie Molina. As our president likes to say, Make no mistake. Despite his clutch hitting this year, Molina has been merely adequate at the plate. He’s praised in some quarters for his defense and leadership, but he’s only thrown out 24% of runners, he’s already topped his career high in passed balls, and if intangible leadership were so important for young pitchers, why did the Giants jettison Matt Morris? That said, the Giants have no one to replace Molina on a daily basis. Guillermo Rodriguez and Eliezer Alfonzo, who after an ugly knee injury is playing back into shape in the minor leagues, have been adequate backups. But neither is ready to step into the starting role. Behind them, triple-A catcher Justin Knoedler also has career backup written on his forehead.

* Omar Vizquel. Huh? At the plate this year Omar has been worse than Neifi Perez gone organic. But barring a trade, the only conceivable replacement is Kevin Frandsen, who a) doesn’t look comfortable at shortstop and b) is actually hitting worse than Vizquel. Of all N.L. players with at least 150 at-bats, Frandsen has the second-worst OPS. He looks totally overmatched. He may yet blossom, but a full year’s worth of at-bats to find out may become a grim exercise. If the Giants can sign Vizquel to a reasonable one-year contract, they should do it.

* Ryan Klesko. His power is nearly gone, but he still gets on base at a nifty clip. If the Giants strike out again this winter in their attempts to find a legitimate power threat at 1B, Klesko would be a safety net. If someone better comes along, he can back up and pinch hit.

* Randy Winn. He’s so…Randy Winnish. The best thing about him this year (.291 / .345 / .407) is that he’s on track to hit his career averages (.285 / .345 / .420). He is what he is. He’s also expensive, but in a year that could see a lot of rollercoaster rookie performances, Winn may provide a little stability.

* Dave Roberts. I’ll write off his horrid first-half numbers as a byproduct of his injured elbow. His on-base percentage was .410 in July, is .355 in August, and he’s 9–for-11 in stolen bases over the same period. That’s more like it. Managed properly, he’s still an offensive asset. And if Bonds leaves, he can shift to left field where his arm is less of a weakness. Rajai Davis looks promising in a tiny sample size, but behind him there are no other leadoff men in the vicinity so don’t be so quick to ditch Roberts.

And finally….

* Barry Bonds. For the right price. We all said this last year, and the Giants gave the big lug $16 million (or $20 million when all is said and done). He has started 92 of the Giants 113 games. What if they brought him back as a part-time player at (for him) part-time prices? Would he do it? Would he be too distracting? What about $8–to-10 million with an out in case of legal trouble? When he’s in there, he’s still one of the best. In fact, according to OPS, he IS the best in the National League. Sure, his OBP is inflated because teams don’t care if he’s on base, but he’s in the top ten in slugging percentage, too.

All these suggestions are subject to change depending on trades and free-agent signings, of course. If Brian Sabean can trade Jonathan Sanchez and/or others for Hanley Ramirez or Kevin Youkilis, then obviously Omar Vizquel and Ryan Klesko should receive nothing more than a gold watch. We might see a trade or two in that vein over the winter, so we’ll adjust our tolerance for aging veterans accordingly.

NOTES:

Quote of the day: “This is what I do, just get on base, try to get into scoring position and make things happen.” – Rajai Davis, after going 3–for4 with two stolen bases yesterday.

For a serious and not-so-serious discussion of whom the Giants might get in return for Mark Sweeney, click here.

For a heart-warming story about Rick Ankiel, the pitching phenom who suddenly couldn’t throw a strike in the 2000 NL playoffs then spent years in injury hell, click here.



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[August 10, 2007 5:33 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Eddie said

Bonds leads MLB in OPS an it's not particularly close unless you count Ryan Braun, who doesn't have the PAs.

I think Bonds would do much better playing only 2 games out of 3 and would hope he'd consider that in his pay demands. He should play AL where he could play every day.

[August 10, 2007 7:04 PM]  |  link  |  reply
ELM said

He should play in the AL and DH, yes, but will any team other than SF have him? Will he go somewhere else where he's not assured of 100% fan love from the home crowd?

[August 10, 2007 7:08 PM]  |  link  |  reply
obsessivegiantscompulsive said

I think 2008 will test whether it is more important for him to be in a Giants uni or to get top dollar. It should also test how much value/interest he really has in the marketplace, I still can't believe Borris saying with a straight face that 30 teams are interested in him.

Good post, that's basically how I feel about the vets too. I would add too that Roberts was rated near the top in defense in LF in stats I've seen before. So we could platoon Lewis and Davis in CF if we really wanted to, and mix in Schierholtz with Roberts and Winn in the corner spots.

Also, take a look at the free agents available this off-season (link at McCronic post about Frandsen), we aren't going to get much better than the guy we got right now, because other teams will be battling for the top guys too, so we might end up with the same set of guys again.

[August 10, 2007 7:30 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Dave said

Rajai may blossom into some sort of adequate 5th outfielder type but it's important to remember he couldn't crack the starting lineup with the Pirates.

Bonds can still play and if he wants to come back, fine. He shouldn't have to accept some cut rate deal either.

Still, if Bonds returns the feeling in the front office will be that they are just another vet away from being a contender..This is very wrong. The Giants really need to clean house.

It will take years to fix this mess.

[August 10, 2007 7:57 PM]  |  link  |  reply
rocketdog said

I always hear the Angels brought up whenever talks start about Bonds going somewhere else (in the AL). The LAA are one of the few teams whose fanbases I could imagine not really caring either way about the Bonds baggage. Not that I would know, really, but hey.

Isn't there another year left on Winn's contract? Does he have any trade value at all?

[August 10, 2007 11:15 PM]  |  link  |  reply
ELM said

>it's important to remember he couldn't crack the starting lineup with the Pirates.

It's important to remember the Pirates are run by idiots.

>Isn't there another year left on Winn's contract?

Yes.

>Does he have any trade value at all?

Maybe.

[August 11, 2007 12:22 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Reeky said

Do we *really* want the Bonds circus back in town? He is a media suck among guys with inflated egos. He is a responsibility suck among guys who need to step up to the plate. He is an attitude suck in a game that requires stamina. There's a reason he is called "the owner and chief clerk of the jerk store." Clubhouse chemistry is not measurable, but psychology is important, and Bonds is bad psychology for a rebuilding team. 44+Youth=Irrational Number. Retire his number, have a lot of parties and fireworks, celebrate BB Day next season, but please keep him out of the clubhouse.

[August 11, 2007 1:51 PM]  |  link  |  reply
CJ said

Reeky, I think that is the logic of the last 15 years of Pirates baseball. The Giants may well be headed down the Pirates path.

[August 11, 2007 8:16 PM]  |  link  |  reply
F.U.-Jobu said

Is Hanley Ramirez on the block?

He would be an incredible acquisition for the Giants. Is that even possible?

[August 11, 2007 10:25 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Dress Left said

The market for BB will be limited to one team - Your San Francisco Giants.

Hell, there was no in interest in him after 73 HR in 01, and despite the marketing opportunities of The Chase, none this year either.

Remains to be seen if McGowan can stop singing "Whatever Barry wants, Barry gets."