When the Giants Come to Town, It's Bye-Bye Baby

11.27.2007
Decisions, Decisions

 

Running a baseball team demands a constant stream of choices. A team will make good and bad ones every week, both on the field and off. When the magnitude or the frequency of the bad choices pile up, teams hit sour times. For some franchises (See Pirates, Pittsburgh) those times last a decade or more. For our beloved Giants, it's three years and counting.

 

That's three years of losing baseball, but the bad decisions stretch back a bit more. After several years of being in the black, Brian Sabean's judgment really shifted to the red side of the ledger after the World Series loss. Since then, the A.J. Pierzynski trade and the Barry Zito deal have served as big ugly bookends to an arc of generally poor decision making. (In today’s column, ESPN's Rob Neyer has produced my favorite line so far about the Zito contract: "He's not Chan Ho Park. Not yet, anyway.")

 

But as I mentioned in my previous post, I'm encouraged by the organization's general decision-making of the past several months, starting with the Matt Morris trade. Could things be better? Sure. In an ideal world, Sabean would have traded every overpaid veteran for promising young talent. But I'm talking general trends here.

 

For your delectation, I present my list of recent good choices the Giants brass have made, with a little schizophrenic counterpoint to entertain and enlighten.

 

Traded Morris for Rajai Davis

 

Q: Yeah, but why wasn't Morris traded in May before he started tanking?

A: Probably because other GMs were waiting to see if Morris would start tanking.

 

Traded Mark Sweeney for Travis Denker

 

Q: Travis Whatsis?

A: Well, sure, but Mr. Whatsis did a bang-up job in Single A after the trade...

Q: Single A? Big deal. And it was a tiny sample size.

A: Don't interrupt me. The fact that the Giants got anything at all for Sweeney was a coup.

 

Made Kevin Correia a starter

 

Q: He began his career as a starter. How did he end up in the bullpen, anyway?

A: He didn't start out well as a starter. And for a long time he wasn't very good as a reliever, either. Sometimes it takes a while to learn the craft of pitching. Down the stretch in 2007, Correia seemed to apply lessons learned from his bullpen stint. I credit the Giants for sticking with him.

Q: Can we really give the Giants credit for this, or is it just dumb luck?

A: Why not both?

 

Gave Kevin Frandsen more playing time

 

Q: No. No no no. This was the biggest no-brainer in the history of mankind. I give them no credit for this. It should have happened months earlier.

A: Hey, they could have continued to play Durham down the stretch. When the voices in your head tell you to cut off your own foot to keep the bugs from crawling out, and you not only refrain from doing so but you also remember to put on clean socks every day, that counts as a good decision, doesn't it?

Q: I can't believe I'm reading this.   

 

Decided to part ways with Barry Bonds

 

Q: Hold on. This decision only looks good because Bonds just got indicted.

A: Exactly.

Q: You're a cynical bastard. The Giants squeezed all the marketing juice they could from Bonds's heroic, time-ravaged body then tossed him aside.

A: I never said good decisions had to gush from a fountain filled with candies and flower petals. Besides, Bonds wasn't exactly exploited against his will in 2007. It's obvious both sides used each other to maximum effect.

Q: Do you think the Giants cut ties with Bonds because they knew the indictment was coming?

A: Maybe. But they re-signed Barry last year with the same cloud over his head. If the risk/reward of bringing him back yet again landed on the reward side, they probably would have signed on for another year of The Freak Show.

 

Re-signed Omar Vizquel

 

Q: He's 40 frickin’ years old.

A: That's not a question.

Q: How is this good?

A: We've discussed this already. Do we have to go over it again? Read this, then get back to me.

 

Re-signed Tyler Walker

 

Q: Oh please. This barely qualifies as a "good decision." It's just stocking up on bullpen biomass. 

A: First of all, Walker will make less than $1 million in 2008. So he's dirt-cheap by today's standards. Second, he showed in September that he's healthy. His stuff was very good and he pitched a couple times on back-to-back days. Third, he's not that old: 32 next July. He could be one of those guys who puts experience and health together and has a great run of success. Even if that run lasts just a few months, the Giants will have gotten their money's worth. This was a much better idea than....

 

Signing Scott Linebrink to a 4-year, $19 million contract

 

Q: The White Sox did that, not the Giants.

A: Right. It’s still a good decision. And while we're on that note...

 

Not signing Torii Hunter

 

Q: I'm with you on that one.

A: Thank you. I'll admit that last month I made some noise that signing Hunter wouldn't be the worst thing. But I never envisioned a contract that averaged $18 million a year. It's pure insanity. Almost as insane as paying a soft-tossing left-handed pitcher $126 million for seven years.



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[November 27, 2007 5:35 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Frank said

I'm generally an optimist as far as the home town team goes. I can turn on movers and shakers tho (as I did on Donahue and am doing on NOlan). So, I start with the fact that Sabean was sooooo successful up until Barry had that post surgery infection. I agree it has been ugly since then. But I do see a plan and a direction. Sabean has announced that, for a team playing in ATT and the NLW, the key to winning is pitching and defense. Of course, a couple of other NLW teams have a head start.
So, I see the direction of the minor leagues as decidely positive and believe we are starting to stock pile both prospects and trading chips. I will be very pleased to see that repository survive without being gutted for one big name.
I am pretty excited about the prospects for our OF. I hope that out of Lewis, Davis, Shierholtz, Bowker, and a couple of years of Winn we can trot out an outstanding defensive OF and slightly above avg offensive production. I hope we don't bring in any more OFs. I would rather see '08 as an eval year to see if we have what we hope we have in those prospects. So far, so good.
Likewise I would be fine with going forward with a Frandsen/ Velez competition at 2b/util IF and Ort + platoon partner at 1b. Burris seems 2 yrs away, Villalona at least 4. So I am anxiously awaiting Sabean's response to our IF shortcomings.
But I do think we are better off minus Morris, Benitez, Sweeney. I think the team is decidedly younger, faster, and more athletic.

[November 28, 2007 12:15 AM]  |  link  |  reply
obsessivegiantscompulsive said

I am going to show more love for Correia than you did, ELM.

First, he started out very well as a starter in his first season, then had a bad second season, but it was so short that it doesn't really count in my opinion (19.0 IP). Then he mainly started in his third season and a 4.96 ERA is OK for a back end starter, though admittedly his peripherals were not that good. So I wouldn't say that he wasn't a good starter previously, he would have been OK as a back of rotation starter based on his stats as a starter prior to the 2006 season, but the Giants just didn't give him a place.

So it was relief only the next season, 2006, where he pitched well overall, I thought, then last season, where he did OK as a reliever then he got to start again and excelled.

Career as starter: 27 starts, 135 IP, 4.33 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, 1.6 K/BB, 6.5 K/9

Career as reliever: 153 IP, 3.76 ERA, 1.37 WHIP, 2.1 K/BB, 7.4 K/9

2007 as starter: 8 starts, 46 IP, 2.54 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 2.6 K/BB (ideally starters over 2.0), 6.7 K/9

I would say "finally" as far as starting him, though I have to say that I agree with why he had to relieve instead of start, Jamey Wright had good stats outside of COL prior to joining the Giants, so it was low risk, high reward if he was able to continue that (he obviously didn't) and Russ Ortiz appeared to be back to normal during the off-season, so again low risk, high reward try with him (and obviously failed again).

With his great stretch of starts, if he can continue that in spring, it'll be hard for Sanchez or Misch to take the last spot in the rotation, but both Sanchez and Misch can strikeout a lot so if either can dominate, I don't think Correia can win that last spot.

If Lowry does get traded, Correia would probably win a rotation spot, as long as he didn't screw up in spring.

I've been a Correia lover since he first came up, and am still rooting for him. With less need for him in the bullpen now, he could be freed to start for us in the rotation, though I also fear that his nice showing at the end of the season might make him desirable to teams.

I would also add giving Dan Ortmeier extended playing time to your list of good decisions, he hit for average, he hit for power, average OPS+ (more than heralded rookies on D-backs can say), apparently showed good agility at 1B for an OF, due to his athleticism. I'm hoping for good things from him in 2008, if the Giants give him the chance.