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07.24.2009
Sanchez v. Buerhle

Driving Mrs. Malo to the airport last night, I caught a little late-night ESPN radio. The entire focus was Mark Buehrle, who certainly deserves tons of congratulations for his perfect game. Even from the President. (“Mark, you pitched stupidly! And I mean that in the best way!”)

Now, I didn’t listen to ESPN radio or watch SportsCenter or catch any other national media after Jonathan Sanchez’s no-hitter, but I have to wonder if he got the same amount of slavish, drooling coverage. The whole theme of the ESPN radio show: Perfection. Buehrle was perfect. The hostess of the show — I didn’t catch her name — even called him a “perfect man.”

The DeWayne Wise catch helped the hype, too. As I and many others noted, it’ll go down as one of the best in the game’s history.

But hype and perfection and Obama aside, Jonathan Sanchez was better. The one baserunner he “allowed” was not his fault — the error by Juan Uribe. If we ignore baseball tradition (generally a good thing to do), we see rationally that Sanchez shouldn’t be penalized for one small mistake by a teammate. We can’t call it a “perfect game,” because it wasn’t 27 up, 27 down, but without a walk (like Buehrle, obviously) — and with 11 strikeouts, compared to Buehrle’s six — Sanchez was more dominant.

In the annals of baseball, fueled so much by lofty semantics and popular imagination, Buehrle will go down as perfect, joining Sandy Koufax, Randy Johnson and only a handful of others, while Jonathan Sanchez will be a notch below. That’s too bad, because Sanchez deserves credit for being perfect, too, even though one of his teammates wasn’t.



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Even with the 11 K's, I'm not sure I'd say Sanchez was better. Buehrle was facing one of the AL's best lineups with a DH, while Sanchez beat a bad offense and got to face the pitcher a couple of times. Not to mention the ball Rowand caught in the 9th of Sanchez's no-no is way out at Comiskey. Not to take anything away from Sanchez, but if we're going to compare, I'd still give Buerhle the edge.

I too give the edge to Buerhle. Sanchez was awesome but not perfect. While we can argue that HE was perfect and Uribe was not, it's a team sport and almost all perfect games AND no hitters requires great plays and a bit of luck. Obviously to be perfect it also requires that ALL routine plays be made. In Sanchez' case they were not.

>Sanchez was awesome but not perfect

With all due respect, this is the type of baseball semantics that cheese me off. Sanchez WAS perfect. He induced a routine ground ball to third base. The third baseman booted it. The outcome -- a slightly less than perfect game -- has nothing to do with Jonathan Sanchez.

Quality of opponent and difference in leagues is a valid argument, but I'm talking here about public perception. Simply because Buerhle's fielders did a slightly better job, Buerhle, not the White Sox, not the TEAM, is exalted for throwing a perfect game, held in much higher esteem than a "mere" no-hitter.

right, so sanchez kind of had 28 up and 28 down

...a plu-perfect game!

It's A TEAM SPORT. Ultimately Sanchez wasn't perfect because HIS team wasn't perfect. You may set a world record in your part of the 400M relay but ultimately someone else may get gold because your team didn't perform as well. I'd hate to think you'd gloat about your personal achievement (I bet his mates would think pretty lowly of ol' Sanchez if he refered to his effort as a perfect game).Maybe we should take away Buerhle's perfect game because after all he wasn't really perfect. He gave up a homerun ball. OHHHH but it counts because his TEAM made an exceptional play. It's OK to count if it's a great play SO it's OK to count if it isn't.

So, if baseball is a team game, then why does the pitcher go down in history as author of a perfect game? Why not "The Chicago White Sox on July 23, 2009, delivered a perfect game against the Rays. Mark Buerhle struck out six, DeWayne Wise made a great catch, etc. The White Sox were the 19th team in major league history to play a perfect game."

No, in the mind of the public and the media, Mark Buerhle is the owner and everlasting creator of this rarest of heroic performances. That's fine. He threw a great game.

But I'm arguing that if the point is to immortalize a great pitching performance, Jonathan Sanchez is getting short shrift. He threw a better game than Buerhle. Ok, he arguably threw a better game, depending on how you factor park and opposing lineup quality.

But at least let's argue it. The labels "perfect game" and "no-hitter" unfortunately create preconceived ideas in the public eye: Buerhle must have pitched better because no one got on base! (Wrong.)

By the way, I'm not the only one who thinks Sanchez pitched better. Check out their Game Scores (based on a formula by Bill James).

Sanchez MAY have in fact pitched better but he wasn't credited with a perfect game so he and the Giants are not worthy of the same slavish, drooling coverage pub. His TEAM let him down while Buehrle's team did not. Also whenever there's a no-hitter being pitched the coverage always, ALWAYS states "THE WHITE SOX HAVE 5 (insert correct number) no-hitters in franchise history. AND sometimes, lots of times they don't even mention the person who last did it but they ALWAYS give ownership to the team (obviously credit goes to the pitcher who threw the game). Heck pitchers pitch great games all the time and take a loss and don't get the same attention. Life's not fair (I know we don't have to debate that). You said you were listening to a show entitled, "Perfection," well Sanchez does not qualify. The mere fact that it's happened so fewer than no-hitters , regardless of the reason, makes it deserving of the show's title- Perfection.

That Anon was me by the way. But to continue the debate- after reading your Game Scores there are plenty of other games (see 2008) that have equal or higher numbers than Buerhle's perfect game where the pitcher actually GAVE UP HITS. Ricky Nolasco didn't pitch a perfect game, he didn't pitch a no-hitter, he gave up hits but his score is equal to Buerhle's game?? I don't buy it.

Was it Twain who said statistics remind him of the guy who drowned in the river that averages 3 inches deep?

OK. Put aside labels. Forget "perfect." Forget "no-hitter." Forget what ESPN said. Who pitched better: Jonathan Sanchez on July 10 or Mark Buehrle on July 23?

But is there not something to be said for the fact that although no-hitters are an extreme rarity they are plentiful when compared to perfect games? I'm not defending the blathering at ESPN or even addressing these two games in particular but below (above?) all the metrics that we love so much is an aesthetic or even an eternality (insert Field of Dreams hyperbole here) that makes baseball the best game in the world. My point being, that ESPN's fetishization of the perfect game is our way of acknowledging that something weird has happened when a perfect game is thrown. Not necessarily better or more dominant, but very particular. The pitcher did it, the team did it, the cut of the infield grass, the prevailing wind, the roar of the crowd, the position of the heavens, etc. did it.

The mere fact that there are only 18 perfect games in history makes it that much more hypable than a no-hitter regardless of WHY the no-hitter wasn't a perfect game. I don't think it's the case now but not too long ago I think it was more rare to hit for the cycle than to throw a no-hitter.

Arguing what "is" is?

There is an explicit definition for a Perfect Game (TM - MLB). So why argue semantics? Better to argue something else, in this case :)

What Sanchez did was more rare. There are 18 "perfect games" in baseball history. There are only 8 perfect-game-marred-by-one-error games.

So there's our talking point :)

I would add that the national media is very celebrity oriented, if it isn't Manny, the Red Sox or Yankees, they are pretty much not interested. Buerhle was an All-Star (deservedly so), in a bigger media market, playing last year's world series contender who is in the AL East. Was Buerhle a better interview? Blather on, Garth!

One more item worth mentioning here: E-Uribe's E-5 blemish in the 7th marked the latest that an error has accounted for the only baserunner in a no-hitter that coulda/shoulda/woulda been a perfect game.

How about that Pirates pitcher who was perfect for, like 12 innings, but then lost it in the 13th? He was even more perfect, until he wasn't.

Hard to say who had the better game. Both lucked out with the defense. Most no-hitters are a bit flukey in that the defense has a big hand in the outcome. That grounder to Uribe was going to be tough for him anyway, even if he had fielded it cleanly, I thought, the error might have been the best result, as it could have been an infield hit.

Obviously, with no hits and no walks, it makes Sanchez's no-hitter the better one since he had 11 strikeouts to Buerhle's total of only 6. By sabermetric evaluation.

Still a strong bit of luck involved with any no-hitter, so I don't see why we should make a fuss over it, they are basically equal.

It is just that the media like to hype unique events that connotes accomplishment. A perfect no-hitter is one, but a no-hitter is another, over say a one-hitter when the pitcher might have struck out 17 and walked none vs. a no-hitter with 7 walks and no strikeouts. It's unfair and unequal, but that is how the media works.

I agree, OGC... Uribe feels bad now, but if he had stayed back and waited for a true hop and then thrown late to first, he would have felt a lot worse.

Check the lyrics to "Harvey Haddix" by The Baseball Project: "Sometimes better ain't better, sometimes justice just ain't served..."

http://www.universaltrendsetter.org/Lyrics/BB/Lyrics_baseball.html#11

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